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  CSA inquiry in the UK.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.iicsa.org.uk/news/inquiry-announces-new-investigation-child-protection-religious-organisations-and-settings.

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  stan livedeath

  unfortunately---in the UK the CSA was the Child Support Agency.
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  New Boy is out!

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well after 11 years it's finally out!.

  this book could have never have happened if not for the jwd web site and the wonderful people here!

  people who have helped so much with gathering the information that is in this book.

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  stan livedeath13 days ago

  i just read the amazon (UK) listing for this book--and was rather amused to see the write up about it was by someone with the same name as my late (JW ) father.

  the person in the book i was referring to was Jack Sutton---same name as my late father.

  if anyone reading this knew my dad--in Birmingham UK up to the mid 1980's--and the isle of Wight (UK) up to 2016, they are welcome to send me a PM.
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  Advice on Disassociating

  by HiddenPimo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello my exjw/pimo/pomo friends,.

  i am working on penning my da letter and wondered if i should use it as a tool to maybe wake up individuals as the boe will have to read it.. anyone have any advice on what i should say versus what i should leave out?

  i am not going to fade as my family can either be loyal to blood or loyal to a man made religion.

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  stan livedeath

  Dubstepped.

  i disagree with what you say about a letter of disassociation. its exactly what the cult want if they have no grounds to d.f a person--the end result is the same----it is announced that the person is no longer one of blah blah blah.

  so--from then on in--its pressure on that persons family and friends to shoot the shun gun. and if they do associate--they run the risk of being d/f for it.

  in my case--going back to the 70's,..the shunning rule wasnt enforced like it is now. our family was friends with another couple--the husband had resigned from his congregation--having previously been the cong servant---he didnt want to face the shame and scandel of being d/f for adultery. his jw wife stuck by him.

  our family was happy with his company--they stayed at our house for holidays. he openly smoked. we simply regarded him as not a jw any more.

  so--i thought it would be the same for me. i resigned after attending a committee meeting held to check out something i was alleged to have said--although i hadnt attended meetings for over a year. i simply said i no longer considered myself a jw--and if they met with me in the street--i was MR ( sutton )..not BROTHER. but any of the congregation was welcome to visit my wife and her mother if they wanted to.

  this worked fine for years: i occasionally attended a talk or sunday assembly to keep my wife off my back. i was never shunned. it was a few more years later we got a divorce and subsequently my teen age kids started shunning ( from maternal pressure i guess )

  so i really do believe if anyone is contemplating writing a letter of resignation / disassociation to think long and hard first if they have family still in the cult.

  the watchtower society is playing deadly games with families. why give it any more ammunition.
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  To Newboy

  by Muddy Waters in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’ve just finished reading your book, couldn’t put it down!

  what a great work!

  it’s disgusting what the organization does in “god’s name”!!

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  stan livedeath

  just finished reading it.

  i think i will post it to my daughters husband. you never know--he might just start to read it.
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  Persecuted for God's Name or Social Retards?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was on my cell phone this morning while pumping gas.

  i was having an intense conversation trying to resolve a potential business logistics problem that could affect a lot of people.

  time was of the essence.

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  stan livedeath

  i think because of the cart work seemingly reducing door knocking--it means joe public cares even less about dubs than before.

  a couple of dubs standing next to a rack stuffed with tracts gets hardly any attention. if you take away those discussions between ex-dubs and the cart attendants--who have you got left ?

  there are quite possibly more vegans than jw's now.
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  Police descend on Jehovah's Witness HQ after abuse allegations

  by BourneIdentity in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://brusselstimes.com/belgium/justice/15271/police-descend-on-jehovah-s-witness-hq-after-abuse-allegations.

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  stan livedeath

  i bet the GB are rubbing their hands with glee--persecution ! proof we are in the last days.
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  Advice on Disassociating

  by HiddenPimo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello my exjw/pimo/pomo friends,.

  i am working on penning my da letter and wondered if i should use it as a tool to maybe wake up individuals as the boe will have to read it.. anyone have any advice on what i should say versus what i should leave out?

  i am not going to fade as my family can either be loyal to blood or loyal to a man made religion.

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  stan livedeath

  suppose the watchtower imposed a " release fee" to anyone wanting to leave ? how many would pay up ?

  isnt it the same as writing a letter of resignation ?
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  To Newboy

  by Muddy Waters in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’ve just finished reading your book, couldn’t put it down!

  what a great work!

  it’s disgusting what the organization does in “god’s name”!!

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  stan livedeath

  bought mine on amazon
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  To Newboy

  by Muddy Waters in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’ve just finished reading your book, couldn’t put it down!

  what a great work!

  it’s disgusting what the organization does in “god’s name”!!

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  stan livedeath

  i'm into the last 80 pages, and have spotted a few typos. the best so far is where the watchtowers refusal to issue ear defenders to those poor brothers slaving in the printing department....many who later suffered impaired hearing....and needed to use EARRING aids !
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  Advice on Disassociating

  by HiddenPimo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello my exjw/pimo/pomo friends,.

  i am working on penning my da letter and wondered if i should use it as a tool to maybe wake up individuals as the boe will have to read it.. anyone have any advice on what i should say versus what i should leave out?

  i am not going to fade as my family can either be loyal to blood or loyal to a man made religion.

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  stan livedeath

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